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Date: 25 Aug 90 02:54:33 GMT

From: swrinde!mips!prls!philabs!briar!rfc
Subject: FT470 extended VHF xmit mod file

To: info-hams


FT-470 mod extended VHF xmit....



Here's the mod for the FT-470. (I have not performed it myself)

1. Remove Cover

2. Remove Lithium battery carefully

3. On left hand side locate some empty vertical pads, one above the other.

It should be marked as R-69. There is also a chip resistor R-67 that

is just below it to the left a bid.

4. Place a solder jumper across the two R-69 pads.

5. Reinstall the lithium battery.

6. Closeup the Radio.

7. Turn the radio of. While pressing down the up and down arrow keys,

turn the radio back on.



Note:This mod only opens up the VHF transmit frequency range

beyond 140 to 150. The automatic repeater offset will

be defeated so you will have to enter the +/- offset yourself.



73's     Bernie NU1S


Note:I haven't tested this, proceed at your own risk.  Don't

transmit out of band, else you might get a fine or even do time.

WA2ISE



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Date: 26 Aug 90 00:39:28 GMT

From: mailrus!hellgate.utah.edu!uplherc!wicat!keithm
 (Keith McQueen)

Subject: FT-470 mods

To: info-hams


I have recevied enough enquiries about mods for the Yaesu FT-470

hand held, that I have decided to post what I know.





(This is a transcription of a letter that I received detailing

the CPU programming jumpers that were found experimentally

by Ed Boakes, WB3FLD.     Keith, N7HMF)



Dear Keith,



A little while ago, I came across a Net News item from you about the

Yeasu FT-470 handheld.  You asked if anyone knew how to make it

receive the public service band just above the UHF amateur band.  Well,

I've figured out how to do that.  However, the bad news is that when

you strap the unit for this mode, it only transmits from 430 to 440!

Oh, well.



I gave you a phone call a week or so ago, but it seemed that we kept

missing each other.  Anyway, here is what I've learned about the

FT-470: I have located a total of eight straps, the four which you

had written about, to the left of the lithium battery, and four others

located under the flat white cable that interconnects the upper half

with the lower half.



                 YEASU FT-470 STRAPS

R69  Vertical, at the 10 o'clock position by the lithium cell

R68  Horizontal, to the lower left of R69

R67  Horizontal, just below R68

R66  Horizontal, just below R67



R71  Vertical, the leftmost of three, to the left of the upper

     corner of the ribbon cable connector.

R70  Vertical, the center of three of which R71 is the leftmost

R72  Vertical, the rightmost of the three

R74  Vertical, to the left of the ribbon cable connector, below

     the three.  (Note that R74 is below an unpopulated capacitor

     that does not have a C number.



There is no R73, or at least it is not on the circuit board and it is

not in the schematic.  And, yes, the order of those three is indeed

R71, R70, R72, left-to-right.



R70, R71, R72 select the mode for the UHF portion of the FT-470.  The

choices are:





                           UHF CHOICES

R71    R70    R72          Rx and TX             Receive only

0      0      0            430 to 440 Mhz        430 to 500 Mhz

0      0      1            430 to 450 Mhz

0      1      0            430 to 440 Mhz

0      1      1            432 to 438 Mhz

1      0      0            430 to 440 Mhz

1      0      1            220 to 225 Mhz

1      1      0            430 to 440 Mhz

1      1      1            210 to 235 Mhz

R66, R67, R68 and R69 select the mode for the VHF portion of the FT-470.

The choices are:



                          VHF CHOICES

R66   R67   R68   R69      Rx and Tx             Receive only

0     0     0     0        144 to  146 Mhz        130 to 180 Mhz

0     0     0     1        144 to  146 Mhz

0     0     1     0       1260 to 1300 Mhz

0     0     1     1       1240 to 1300 Mhz

0     1     0     0        140 to  150 Mhz        130 to 180 Mhz

0     1     0     1        140 to  174 Mhz

0     1     1     0        303 to  343 Mhz

0     1     1     1        8AL to  242 Mhz

1     0     0     0        144 to  148 Mhz

1     0     0     1        144 to  146 Mhz

1     0     1     0       1240 to 1300 Mhz

1     0     1     1        404 to  444 Mhz

1     1     0     0        140 to  160 Mhz

1     1     0     1       1260 to 1300 Mhz

1     1     1     0        101 to  141 Mhz

1     1     1     1        1R3 to 158L Mhz

(Note:the receive only ranges are enabled by powering up the

       unit with the up and down arrow buttons depressed...kjm)



When there is more than one combination which has the same frequency

range, the difference is the default step size and/or the default

repeater offset.  Of course, choices that do not match the VCO and

filters do not actually transmit or receive on those frequencies.

A particularly strange example is that the VHF side of the set can

be set to tune from 404 to 444 Mhz, but again, it won't actually lock.

Even in the 101-141 mode, the VHF VCO will not lock - this must be for

use with some other sort of VCO  (It looks like this would cover the

aeronautical band rather nicely.)   There are two really wierd VHF

settings, those for 8AL-242 and 1R3-158L.  These must be for use

with some other LCD controller - it displays truly unusual and

non sequential thins when stepped through the "bands".



R74 seems to have something to do with something like selecting

the IF frequency, or something else like that that.  When set, it

really screws up the VHF reception.



My technique for determining these straps is to remove the straps

that come in the unit, solder wires to each pad, run the wires out

of the unit to a bank of DIP switches,  screw the unit back together,

and then go through all of the DIP switch combinations.  I usually

use a stereo microscope and 30 guage wire for this.  Since I didn't

try powering the unit on with every combination of keys held down

for each DIP switch combination, there may still be other secrets

possible.



Since I was looking for something like receive and transmit from

zero to infinity, and I didn't find it, I kept looking until I got

bored and wanted to button the thing up and start using it.  I

determined, from studying the schematic, that there should be a

hiddem strapping diode from CPU pin 2 to CPU pin 22.  I installed

one, but nothing changed.  In fact, changing it and powering the

unit up did not cause a reset.  Therefore, I concluded that this

really wasn't a mystery strap, afterall.  However, there could be

others.  I'm trying to get a data sheet for the CPU, from Hitachi,

to see if any of the grounded pins are actually I/O pins -- they

might be good candidates, particularly if their traces are routed

in such a way as to be easily accessible for cutting.



I've learned that one of the ways to get some of the other, new

Yeasu handhelds to go out-of-band, involves dumping data out of

the clone port, editing the data, and then dumping it back in.

I called Yeasu and asked if the FT-470 could be cloned.  They

said no, so I ignored them.  I haven't figured out how to get

it to dump data, but I believe it will accept data.  The clone

mode is entered by powering up the unit with the F key held

down.  (It's also a neat way to see all of the indicators on

the LCD!)  The data must be presented in the ring ("right

channel") of a stereo 2.5 millimeter plug which is placed

into the mic jack.  This is cryptically marked on the schematic,

anyway.  However, I have no idea what the format for the data

should be.  If you come across this, I'd love to know.  This

may be the trap door to getting the rig to receive and transmit

in more interesting places.



Have fun with you FT-470!



Yours Truly,

Ed Boakes



CAll:WB3FLD

email:att!hocpa!ewb

work:(201) 834-1121

Fax:(201) 834-1371

home:(201) 957-0391







Several interesting things that I have learned since I received this

letter...  According to the guys at Yaesu, the engineers in Japan

appearantly wrote the full UHF rx/tx out of the ROM on purpose.



The unit does a very good job as a cross-band repeater.



To enable this, turn off the radio, hold the RPT key and turn on the

radio.  Now, anything heard on EITHER band will be re-transmitted on the

other band.  There are, however, a few problems.



First, there is no real internal path for the audio to get from the receiver

to the transmitter, so you either have to modify the radio, to provide a

path, or do what I did which is build a short loop back cable connecting the

tip of the earphone jack to the tip of the microphone jack like this:



     <=====----/\/\/\/\/\/\/=====---->

                   100K



This is the way I did it, others I have talked to have used either just a

resistor like me or a small capacitor, or a combination.  On my radio, this

value of resistor gave me a good range of tranmitted audio levels by

adjusting the volume control.





The other small problem is that the radio automatically selects low power on

transmit in this mode.  This is probably because of the lack of a real

duplexer.



After looking through the service manual, it became appearant that the small

mystery hole on the side of the radio with the rubber plug was originally

intended for an external power jack.  I have not yet asked Yaesu if they will

sell the jack for that spot. I also have no idea why they omitted it.



All in all, I still love my FT-470.  Its a great little radio.





--

 Keith McQueen, Wicat Systems Inc. , (801)224-6400      | My opinions are |

 N7HMF
 UPLHERC!WICAT!KEITHM                                   | ...so there!    |



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